Can Hands Be Registered As Lethal Weapons

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1. Does anyone know anything anout this. I've been hearing the myth for many years but no one has ever approached me about registering anything. Is this just some kind of MA Urban Lagend? What do ya'll think?

   On to the next level. Do you think you should be made to register your hands and feet as deadly weapons? Of course no one can actually make you do that.

2. 

   Yohan In the Spirit of Yohan Supporter

   Well I have a concealed weapons lisence for my feet, because they are covered up by my shoes. I don't have to get the lisence for my hands though, as they are in plain sight.

   I'm just that awesome.

3. No, you shouldn't be made to register your hands and feet as deadly weapons, because its a blatantly stupid idea.

   Fortunately the myth that you have to is just that, a myth.

4. here ya go.

   Martial Arts Myths & Misconceptions
   Black Belts Having To Register As Deadly Weapons
   By Jonathan Maberry

   This is one of the oldest American martial arts legends, and there is absolutely no basis or reality in it. First off, there is no department or process within the U.S. government to regulate martial arts, which means there is no instrument in place to identify persons practicing fighting arts, and no governmental method by which practitioners can be evaluated. Such a feat of regulation would cost millions, if not billions, and would be an invasion of civil rights. Actually there is not a country on earth where martial artists are required to register themselves as weapons, deadly or otherwise.

   This myth has its roots in two different aspects of mid-20th century history. In post-World War II Japan traditional martial arts were made illegal, and records were kept of those persons who were experienced practitioners of the arts. This was a bit of anti-Japanese backlash following the war and lasted only a few years. It has not been repeated, and it never spread beyond the borders of Japan.

   The other root is planted in the soil of the rich and often outrageous history of professional boxing. In the Joe Lewis era (the boxer, not the karate master), it was a common publicity stunt to have police on hand during a press conference to "register" the boxer as a deadly weapon. Understand, this was just a publicity stunt and carried no more legal weight than receiving the Key to the City actually means you can open any door with it and just walk in.

   In court cases involving violent confrontations, lawyers and judges may advise the jury to bear in mind a person's martial arts, boxing, or military combat training when evaluating the facts of the case. For example, in the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F., 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals concluded that the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," was aware enough of the potential of his blows to deliberately break the plaintiff's jaw. But that is a lot different from legally stating that the person in question is a registered or licensed "deadly weapon".

   Pat Priore, a police chief from Pennsylvania and former SWAT team hand-to-hand instructor, remarked: "I have been in law enforcement for 16 years and I have never observed this practice in my department nor any other department. Occasionally that old bit of nonsense pops up...but we in the law enforcement community regard it as a joke. I'm amazed that so many people still believe it."

   What I find truly disturbing, however, is that I have encountered a number of students who showed me "registration cards" they'd gotten from their instructors. These instructors, mind you, charged them a hefty fee to be registered; and the students who, with good will, believed what their instructors had told them, completely believed that they were now registered as deadly weapons. Not only is this fraud, but it is dishonorable behavior as well.

5. 

   Jesh Dutch Side Of The Force

6. Well I dunno, there is one appendage that I've had to register as a deadly weapon. But it's not my hands or feet. ;-)

7. i'm illegal in thirteen states.

8. Hands and feet, deadly weapons? Nooooooo...

9. i think my breath is more deadly than your hands and feet combined!!! no wait make that my armpit!!!

10. My left pinky is registered as a deadly weapon. The rest of me...not so much.

11. I suppose you bash them to death with that rock you've got for a head, eh?

    j/k, of course.

    But you started it

12. Ohh...You mean your penis! :bang:

13. Well, actually, I had to register my feet, not so much as deadly weapons, but as nonconventional weapons of mass disgustion....but only after running more than three or four miles in old trainers. Be well.

14. Well, one of my "heads" anyway. Man I love innuendo.

15. interesting

    That history of japan after WWII is interesting and probably where the myth comes from. Don't get me wrong I know its a myth. I was just wondering where it came from and why it persists to this day.

    You don't have to register guns and knives and swords.. why would you have to register hands and feet. I mean come one why in the world is this myth even still around.

    Anyone have any other myths to share???????

    There have been several cases where MAtists get into trouble because of supposed use of excess force. I think this is total BS. As long as its self defense there should be no repercussions towards MAists because they are trained... what do ya'll think??

16. Louisiana may be slightly different, but in many states in the U.S. you do have to register guns and you do have to have a liscence to have own one. It's not quite the wild west that many believe it is.

    Again, contrary to what you posted earlier in another thread it's actually very difficult in most states in the U.S. to get a concealed carry weapon's permit (CCW).

    The background check is rigorous and the reasoning behind wanting a CCW had better be credible in the extreme. They will check in detail and they don't have any fear of denying you a CCW permit as they are not guaranteed or protected by the constitution.

    In regards to knives... in general I don't think there are any states that require you to register them... but that is not the same thing as a free liscence to carry any knife you want. The laws on this vary greatly from state to state...and even from county to county within the state. Often knives over a certain length are illegal to carry at all. Gravity knives, switch blades and butterfly knives are often illegal as well. Any knife that can be considered a 'dirk' or a 'dagger' is usually illegal to carry. Carrying most knives (or guns) within a certain number of feet from a public school or courthouse can involve heavy additional penalties.

17. Actually Slipthejab .. if you check out your gun laws (i would post them but I don't know what state you live in). You do not need to register a firearm anywhere. And despite what you see on TV, you don't need a permit to own one. Also the supreme court has ruled that if you can leally own a firearm you can get a CCW permit. Normally you have to take a class, a shooting test, go through the same background check as when you buy a firearm, you have to be fingerprinted and sign some afidavids. I don't know where you live but you should check out the laws. There are probably some idiotic states that still try to pull that BS but as far as I know most ... if not all states follow basically the same guidlines. Check it out.

18. Your Head is classed as a weapon in britain,and if you have been found using it in a fight then you can get sent down for GBH(Grevious Bodily Harm)
    :woo:

19. 
    In the UK you need a permit from the police station to be able to buy a firearm (of course handguns are completely illegal here now), and you have to, by law, buy a metal locker which you must store it in.

20. What you've posted isn't entirely accurate.

    All states do not follow the same guidlines. If they did, then half of the US would have the same laws the state of Virginia has with regards to importation and distribution of firearms which is clearly not the case. California for one has very strict laws in regards to where you can and can't buy a gun and who can own a gun and whether or not they can get a CCW.

    I would ask for you to back up your statement with credible reference:

    I believe this is false. If this was the case then everyone who owns a firearm would apply for a CCW. In California and Colorado they have very strict CCW laws that I know of first hand. There is an attempt to work around this for some states with a Utah CCW permit. You'll note that Colorado is on the list... but you have to be a man who likes to lose bets to think that if you were pulled over on a traffic stop and you were carrying a gun that they'd just check your CCW and let you go on your merry way. It'd be far from merry - and would be an incredible hassle.

    Those states are that supposedly recognize the Utah CCW permit are:
    Alabama, Alaska*, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont*, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming.

    The Utah CCW does NOT allow you to carry in California. There is also a Florida permit that allows carry in the states listed above as well as the additional state of Pennsylvania.

    Please post the Supreme Court decision that rules that anyone who can buy a guy is eligible for a CCW permit. I have never heard or seen such a decision.

    By the very fact that you have bought a gun and have to pass the gun safety test, range time and background check... your gun is in fact registered.

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